Manipulating HP Values in Suikoden 1 HD Remaster: Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars
I've been replaying Suikoden 1 Remaster the same way I always did on the PlayStation, grinding for six Celadon Urns, six Octopus Pots, and 27 Water Rune Pieces (9 each for Tir, Viktor, and Flik).
However, this time, I've been experimenting with HP value manipulation, something I used to do in Final Fantasy 7, and I wanted to see if it was possible in Suikoden 1.
My Approach
To test this, I started tracking HP values at the levels characters join my party. Initially, I attempted this with Tir alone, but I ran into a problem every time I fought a single Furball, I gained two levels at once, making it impossible to get two perfect HP rolls.
To solve this, I recruited Ted to balance EXP gains, allowing me to level up one step at a time. Once I could consistently reset and manipulate the HP values, I grinded Tir up to level 11. At that point, EXP gains slowed significantly (around 5–10 EXP per battle), so I added Pahn, Cleo, and Gremio to my party.
Currently, I've knocked out Cleo and Gremio and have been focusing on Pahn.
HP Manipulation Progress
Below are the tables I've been compiling for character HP values at different levels. Let me know if you're also experimenting with this or if you have any tips.
**Update:** Here's the latest information...
Octopus Pots - 6
Celedon Urns - 6
Water Rune Pieces - 36
Tir
Level 1 - HP 17
Level 2 - HP 29
Level 3 - HP 41
Level 4 - HP 53
Level 5 - HP 65
Level 6 - HP 77
Level 7 - HP 89
Level 8 - HP 101
Level 9 - HP 113
Level 10 - HP 125
Level 11 - HP 137
Level 12 - HP 149
Level 13 - HP 161
Level 14 - HP 173
Level 15 - HP 185
Level 16 - HP 197
Level 17 - HP 209
Level 18 - HP 221
Level 19 - HP 233
Level 20 - HP 245
Level 21 - HP 257?
Pahn
Level 1 - HP 25
Level 2 - HP 38
Level 3 - HP 51
Level 4 - HP 64
Level 5 - HP 77
Level 6 - HP 90
Level 7 - HP 103
Level 8 - HP 116
Level 9 - HP 129
Level 10 - HP 142
Level 11 - HP 155
Level 12 - HP 168?
Cleo
Level 1 - HP 20
Level 2 - HP 30
Level 3 - HP 40
Level 4 - HP 50
Level 5 - HP 60
Level 6 - HP 70
Level 7 - HP 80
Level 8 - HP 90
Level 9 - HP 100
Level 10 - HP 110
Level 11 - HP 120
Level 12 - HP 130
Level 13 - HP 140
Level 14 - HP 150
Level 15 - HP 160
Level 16 - HP 170
Level 17 - HP 180
Level 18 - HP 190
Level 19 - HP 200
Level 20 - HP 212
Level 21 - HP 224?
Gremio
Level 1 - HP 22
Level 2 - HP 31
Level 3 - HP 40
Level 4 - HP 49
Level 5 - HP 58
Level 6 - HP 67
Level 7 - HP 76
Level 8 - HP 85
Level 9 - HP 94
Level 10 - HP 103
Level 11 - HP 112
Level 12 - HP 121
Level 13 - HP 130
Level 14 - HP 139
Level 15 - HP 148
Level 16 - HP 157
Level 17 - HP 166
Level 18 - HP 175
Level 19 - HP 184
Level 20 - HP 194
Level 21 - HP 204?
Viktor
Level 7 - HP 148
Level 8 - HP 169
Level 9 - HP 190
Level 10 - HP 211
Level 11 - HP 232
Level 12 - HP 253
Level 13 - HP 274
Level 14 - HP 295
Level 15 - HP 316
Level 16 - HP 337
Level 17 - HP 358
Level 18 - HP 379
Level 19 - HP 400
Level 20 - HP 406
Level 21 - HP 412?
Camille
Level 9 - HP 93
Level 10 - HP 103
Level 11 - HP 113
Level 12 - HP 123
Level 13 - HP 133
Level 14 - HP 143
Level 15 - HP 153
Level 16 - HP 163
Level 17 - HP 173
Level 18 - HP 183
Level 19 - HP 193
Level 20 - HP 205?
Tai Ho
Level 10 - HP 121
Level 11 - HP 133
Level 12 - HP 145
Level 13 - HP 157
Level 14 - HP 169
Level 15 - HP 181
Level 16 - HP 193
Level 17 - HP 205
Level 18 - HP 217
Level 19 - HP 229
Level 20 - HP 241?